The New Jerusalem – The New Heaven & Earth Covenant


The prophesies from the Old Testament of the new covenant and the new Jerusalem are being falsely taught as literal. Many have been taught to believe that the words “forever,” and “no more” apply to a land based, earthly nation state of Israel. Those teaching these prophesies to be a literal rebuilding of the city of Jerusalem, and a literal carnal earthly kingdom of Israel do not consider that no where in the either the Old nor the New Testament is the forever kingdom of God promised to be a natural, earthly kingdom.

Jeremiah 30 to 31:25 is the prophesy of the return from the Babylonian captivity for both Ephraim (the northern 10 tribes) and Judah. But, beginning in Jer. 31:31 is the Messianic prophesy of the new covenant of the gospel of Christ.

31Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: 32Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord:

33But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. 34And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

35 Thus saith the Lord, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The Lord of hosts is his name: 36 If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the Lord, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.

37 Thus saith the Lord; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the Lord. 38 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that the city shall be built to the Lord from the tower of Hananeel unto the gate of the corner.

39And the measuring line shall yet go forth over against it upon the hill Gareb, and shall compass about to Goath. 40And the whole valley of the dead bodies, and of the ashes, and all the fields unto the brook of Kidron, unto the corner of the horse gate toward the east, shall be holy unto the Lord; it shall not be plucked up, nor thrown down any more for ever.” (Jer. 31: 31-40, YLT)

This is the prophesy of the new Jerusalem, the heavenly Jerusalem, and just as all other prophesies, it involves much symbolism and metaphors and re-defining of Israel. The prophesy clearly says that the new covenant would not be like the old covenant made with the tribes of Israel. Therefore, the new covenant would not be about a promised land on this earth.

The seed of Israel (vs. 36) is defined under the new covenant as all those who are in Christ (Gal. 3:26-29), as all those in Christ are now counted for the seed of Abraham. Those who are in Christ are the Israel that is saved with an everlasting salvation (Isa. 45:17). This prophesy of the Israel that will never more be plucked up, nor thrown down is of the everlasting kingdom of God for all those who are in Christ Yeshua (Jesus). Paul stated that a Jew is now one who is inwardly circumcised of the heart (Rom. 2:29).

Jer. 31:31-40 is the same prophesy as is given in Joel 3:14-21.

14Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for the day of the Lord is near in the valley of decision. 15The sun and the moon shall be darkened, and the stars shall withdraw their shining.

16The Lord also shall roar out of Zion, and utter his voice from Jerusalem; and the heavens and the earth shall shake: but the Lord will be the hope of his people, and the strength of the children of Israel. 17 So shall ye know that I am the Lord your God dwelling in Zion, my holy mountain: then shall Jerusalem be holy, and there shall no strangers pass through her any more.

18And it shall come to pass in that day, that the mountains shall drop down new wine, and the hills shall flow with milk, and all the rivers of Judah shall flow with waters, and a fountain shall come forth out of the house of the Lord, and shall water the valley of Shittim. 19 Egypt shall be a desolation, and Edom shall be a desolate wilderness, for the violence against the children of Judah, because they have shed innocent blood in their land.

20But Judah shall dwell for ever, and Jerusalem from generation to generation. 21 For I will cleanse their blood that I have not cleansed: for the Lord dwelleth in Zion.(YLT)

Only the new Jerusalem would be holy through the Messiah because of His sacrifice for our sins. Only His blood could cleanse our and their sins. It is what is repeated in Heb. Chap. 8.

4For if he were on earth, he should not be a priest, seeing that there are priests that offer gifts according to the law: 5Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount.

6But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises. 7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.

8For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah: 9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.

10For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: 11And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.

12For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more. 13In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away. (KJV)

Christ could not be a priest on the earth as He was not of the line of the Levites. The old covenant of the Mosaic Law was about to vanish away when the book of Hebrews was written in about AD 66, and it very clearly stated that Christ would not be ruling from an earthly nation state with earth-drawn borders.

Jeremiah’s prophesy of new boundaries for Jerusalem took in the nearby “unclean” areas around the old city of Jerusalem; the hill of Garab and Goath to the northwest, the valley of dead bodies (Hinnom) to the south where the babies had been sacrificed to the pagan god Moloch, the Kidron valley east of the city (also called the valley of Jehoshaphat,and the valley of decision) to the horse gate.

It is a prophesy of an enlarged and expanded Jerusalem under the new covenant which is the same meaning of the description of the new Jerusalem in Rev. 21:15-17 of a four square city, a perfect cube large enough to hold every saint that is in Christ Jesus.

And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.” (Rev. 21:1, KJV)

The national, earthly region of Israel, and the remnant that was Judea and Jerusalem had been called “the earth,” or “the promised land,” or “the pleasant land” (Psa. 106:24; Jer. 3:19; Dan. 8:9), or “the four corners of the land” (Ezek. 7:2). All of the pagan gentile nations that surrounded the pleasant land of Israel were considered “seas” that would come up as floods covering the “land” of Israel in the prophesies (Psa. 90:5; Isa. 28:2; Jer. 46:7; Amos 8:8).

That there is now no more sea is the meaning at Rev. 21:1 that there is now no more distinction of earthly nations and land boundaries before God under the new covenant of the gospel of Christ. All people of all nations who will answer the call of the gospel of Christ are now welcome to tabernacle with Him (Rev. 21:3) which is the fulfillment of the last feast, THE Feast of Tabernacles where all nations were welcome in Jerusalem, also called the Feast of Nations on the 15th of Tishri.

After the destruction of that temple in Jerusalem in AD 70 the first earth and the first heaven had passed away, and there was no longer any importance on the earthly land, the pleasant land, the promised land of that old covenant. It was all fulfilled in the prophesies of the destruction of that temple and converted into the everlasting kingdom that came without observation, and is in our midst (Luke 17:20) for believers in Christ. The new Jerusalem is a spiritual city, the capital city of the everlasting kingdom of Christ which is NOT an earthly kingdom.

The prophesy of Joel 3:17 that no strangers would ever again pass through the new Jerusalem is the same as Rev. 21:8, 27 that all of the unrighteous, the unbelievers or strangers are even now outside that city.

8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death…..27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb’s book of life. (KJV)

Only those who are in Christ occupy the heavenly Jerusalem now (Rev. 21:24-27).

The people who call themselves “Jews” today do not want to hear this. They are using and misapplying scripture for their own agenda, and political power to glorify themselves. They have deceived many others to believe that false agenda because they want to believe that God will make them the most important nation over all other nations on earth. They are the most to be pitied for their own blindness.

Do not be deceived. God redefined the House of Israel under the new covenant as all who are in Christ, and they are found in every nation on this earth – in England, France, Germany, Poland, Italy, Spain, Finland, Norway, Russia, the united States of America, Brazil, Columbia, Canada, Africa and even China. The current nation state of Israel was established through political machinations of Zionists and their agents of the Rothschilds, and it has nothing to do with the word of God.

See the posts God’s Definitions – Part I: The House of Israel, and Part II – The House of God at the right margin. See also the post It’s Not The End of The World – Part VI: The Zionist and Jesuit Deceit.

27 thoughts on “The New Jerusalem – The New Heaven & Earth Covenant

  1. aaeganl

    Thanks again for your response. I also noticed in Isaiah 40:3-4 “A voice is calling, Clear the way for the Lord in the wilderness; Make smooth in the desert a highway for our God. Let every valley be lifted up, and every mountain and hill be made low; and let the rough ground become a plain, and the rugged terrain a broad valley;”
    If Zech 14:4 is literal and ‘proves’ that Christ must come and split the mount of Olives because it says so, then what do you say about this verse, which we KNOW already happened – (John the baptist did come proclaiming). So are you telling me that when John the Baptist came preaching, that there was (had to be) a massive earthquake that lifted valleys, brought mountains low and smoothed out all the ground? Of course this didn’t happen. It is symbolic. Just as Zechariah 14:4 is symbolic.

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    1. Yes. Lifting up valleys and lowering hills and mountains makes a broad plain that is easy to traverse. It makes the paths smooth. Traveling to Jerusalem was up through hills and mountains. It was not an easy path for the caravans to get to the feasts.

      There is another aspect we need to consider for Zech 14:4 and that is Christ’s crucifixion. It may not be speaking only about the destruction of Jerusalem, because of vs. 6-7 are clearly speaking of the crucifixion, and the living waters of vs. 8 which refers again to Christ’s death on the cross. What other way of deliverance or salvation has God provided us than through Christ’s death, burial, and resurrection? What other escape path is there, really?

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  2. aaeganl

    Have you written in any of your posts specifically about the book of Zechariah and how it relates? I have a friend who can’t get past Zech 14:4 as ‘proof’ that there is a time when Jesus will return again in our day to Jerusalem,

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    1. No, I have not addressed Zechariah. It is difficult in many parts, and especially Zech 14:4. The reason it s difficult is because people are attempting to make a highly symbolic book very literal. The prophesy of the splitting of the Mt. of Olives deals with the metaphors of the OT where God compared His people to olive trees (Psa. 52:8; 128:3;Jud. 9:8-9; Isa. 24:13; Zech 4:2-3). Paul used the imagery of grafting the gentiles onto the olive branch (Rom. 11:24). The promised land was described as a land of olive oil (Deu. 8:8). Olive oil and spices was used in the anointing of the priests (Ex. 30:23-25) and of kings (1 Sam. 10:1). The oil was a symbol of honor and favor, and was not to be used in the sacrifices for sin offerings (Lev. 5:11; Num. 5:15) nor in times of mourning (Dan. 10:3).

      At this time, I do not have certainty about which symbolic meaning to attach to the prophesy in Zech 14 of the splitting of the Mt. of Olives, tho I favor that it has to do with dividing the people – those that believed Christ is the Son of God from the unbelievers – which is the breaking off of the branches Paul spoke of (Rom. 11:17) – and I can also attribute a symbolic association with the removal of honor and favor from Jerusalem with God’s judgment at its destruction in AD 70. Either of these would fit, but there could be another meaning I have not yet come across.

      Your friend’s refusal to acknowledge God’s prophetic use of metaphors and symbolism, and his refusal to acknowledge the prophesies throughout both the old and new testaments for the destruction of Jerusalem does not hang upon Zech 14:4. It is an excuse he is giving you because he doesn’t want to believe the very obvious proofs you have already shown him. There is more than sufficient scripture to absolutely know Jesus’ second appearance in that generation of the 1st cent. AD was promised to them, as I have already pointed out at this blog. My advise is to let him ponder what you have said to him. It may be that one day he will ask you again about these things. You might gently ask him when he expects the 3rd destruction of Jerusalem?

      Jer. 11:2-3, 16-17; “2 Hear ye the words of this covenant, and speak unto the men of Judah, and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem;
      3 And say thou unto them, Thus saith the Lord God of Israel; Cursed be the man that obeyeth not the words of this covenant,…
      16 The Lord called thy name, A green olive tree, fair, and of goodly fruit: with the noise of a great tumult he hath kindled fire upon it, and the branches of it are broken. 17 For the Lord of hosts, that planted thee, hath pronounced evil against thee, for the evil of the house of Israel and of the house of Judah, which they have done against themselves to provoke me to anger in offering incense unto Baal.” (KJV)

      Micah 6:2, 14-16, “2 Hear ye, O mountains, the Lord’s controversy, and ye strong foundations of the earth: for the Lord hath a controversy with his people, and he will plead with Israel.”….. “14 Thou shalt eat, but not be satisfied; and thy casting down shall be in the midst of thee; and thou shalt take hold, but shalt not deliver; and that which thou deliverest will I give up to the sword. 15 Thou shalt sow, but thou shalt not reap; thou shalt tread the olives, but thou shalt not anoint thee with oil; and sweet wine, but shalt not drink wine. 16 For the statutes of Omri are kept, and all the works of the house of Ahab, and ye walk in their counsels; that I should make thee a desolation, and the inhabitants thereof an hissing: therefore ye shall bear the reproach of my people.” (KJV)

      The curse of Israel and the mountains of Israel ? Treading the olives, but not being anointed with them? Slavery, and destruction. When Titus and his legions encamped upon the Mt. of Olives they denuded the mountain and all of the valley and hills around Jerusalem of all the trees. I am sure that this also plays into the imagery of the splitting of the Mt. of Olives in Zech.’s prophesy.

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  3. cinnamonaiblins777

    I know you have discussed this before. It’s still probably the biggest sticking point for me. In the Bible are the words devil and satan always used in reference to humans on Earth who oppose God’s people? Or are there instances where these terms are used in reference to an invisible entity who prowls through the world seeking the ruin of souls? I find this to be the most difficult subject to get a handle on.

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    1. I beleve there are indications of an agent that God used or allowed to operate as an enemy,and accuser of people. Job 1:12; Luke 22:31; Zech. 3:1-5 where the “adversary” or “satan” asked permission to harm them. God gave this agent permission with certain limits in Job, and pushed against this agent in the vision in Zech 3; and denied him Peter and the apostles collectively in Luke 22. But, he/it always asked permission to do so. Which means that ultimately it was God who allowed the punishment or judgment, and the adversary was His agent.

      The Greek word “diabolos” from which we get the English word “devil” means a false accuser, a slanderer. The Hebrew word “satan” means an enemy, opponent, or adversary. Both of these words can be used generically throughout the scriptures for anyone who takes on that position. When used in 1 Pet 5:8 we have to keep in mind the contemporary time frame of the persecution by the Sanhedrin in Jerusalem against Christ’s disciples and apostles. The words “satan” and “devil” in that verse indicate the seeking out of the weak and innocent through false accusation to bring in before the council for legal damages. That verse is being used too loosely today. The imagery is from the OT scriptures where the wicked ones were compared to a lion seeking its prey, whom they might rend and tear. (Psa. 10:8-9; 17:11-12)

      God used the imagery of predator beasts – lions, wolves, leopards, bears, etc – for wicked people who sought to do evil for their own satisfaction. So, most often the use of the words “satan” and “devil” were indicative of evil people who will not acknowledge God (Psa. 14:1-3; 53:1-3). Their use in prophesy encompassed many wicked people. And, in Rev. 20:10, the devil (false accuser) who deceived “them”, and the “beast” and the “false prophet” encompassed the same group of people – those who stood against Christ, those who crucified Christ and persecuted His saints – the scribes, Pharisees, and the Sanhedrin of Jerusalem. The focus of the prophesy of Rev. – as it was in Matt. 24, Mark 13, Luke 21 – was the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple. As the rulers of Jerusalem rejected their Messiah they were the adversaries of God and of Christ. Those adversaries of that prophesy are dead and gone.

      Is God still allowing an agent called “satan” to operate against people on earth? I can’t answer that question. I believe that people are responsible for their own actions, and are accountable to God for what they do here (Jer. 31:29-30; Ezek 18:19-21; Deu. 24:16 ) That means that the agent of God, if he is still active, who acts as an enemy accuser is not at fault. We are. So, is the real accuser an unseen enemy from the spiritual realm, or is it us?

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  4. cinnamonaiblins777

    I want to go over the topic of the mortal wound of the beast and its subsequent healing. From what I gather, most preterists believe the mortal wound is suffered at the death of Nero and the wound is healed after Nero when order seems to get restored in Rome. I recently read a different preterist viewpoint on this matter. It goes something like this….there was persecution that arose over Stephen that lasted about three and a half years from 34 A.d to 38 A.D. When this first three and a half year period collapsed, that constituted the mortal wound of the beast. Then when Nero began his persecution of the church, that’s when the mortal wound was healed.

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    1. The determining factor is the beast. Rev. 13:1 identifies that beast as the beast of the sea. The sea in prophesy stood for the pagan nations that surrounded the land of Israel as water surrounds an island. So, the sea beast was a pagan nation, and specifically Rome. It was one of the heads / Caesars of Rome that was mortally wounded that nearly caused the death of the sea beast nation. The sea beast nation was then revived but a succeeding king / Caesar.

      The persecution of Stephen was carried out at the hands of the land beast, the Sanhedrin in Jerusalem. Different beast, different situation. I believe that viewpoint is misconstrued. See my post Frequent Mistakes – Part I: The Wounded Head at the right margin. The situation of the mortal wound was of the sea beast and only suits that of Nero’s mortal wound and the subsequent re-birth of Nero metaphorically by both Otho and Vitellius through their mimicry of Nero.

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      1. crossbow1219

        Good evening Gina I hope you are doing well, I have an off topic question for you if you have any input on it. Is there reasons why we don’t have writings from 10 of the 12 disciples? Also is there sources from the Judeans who lived during the time of Christ who wrote about him? I read some from non biblical sources but there seems to be evidence they may be forgeries or not the right time frame. Thank you for your time and insight.

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      2. The first century AD disciples had been given the gifts of the Holy Spirit, some to prophesy, and some to teach, and some to speak foreign languages, etc. They were living testaments of the word of God, the gospel in earthen vessels (2 Cor. 4:7). Jesus told them not to worry about what they would say as the Holy Spirit would give them the words (Matt. 10:19). Paul told them that the disciples spoke the words of the Spirit (1 Cor. 2:11-13).

        Jesus sent Paul as an apostle to the gentiles. Paul’s first missionary trip began about AD 48-49 to Galatia. Many believe Matthew stayed in Jerusalem for about 15 years or so after Christ’s crucifixion. So, the first 20 years after Jesus’ death the people had the word directly from God, either through His Son (Heb. 1:1-3), or through the spoken word of the gifted disciples / apostles.

        Also, Jesus told his disciples that they would be persecuted during their missions to the “lost sheep” of Israel, throughout those cities known for their Jewish population (Matt. 10: 17, 22-23). It is believed that James was martyred about 44 AD. It is most probable that many of the others died within the next 10 to 15 years. Most believe Peter and Paul to have been martyred about AD 64-66. So, having the Spirit to tell them what to say, many of the disciples probably had no need to write.

        As Peter says that the men of old were moved by the Spirit to speak (2 Pet. 1:21), then we know the Holy Spirit was operating the same way during the early years after Christ’s death. The people had the word spoken directly to them first by the Son of God (Heb. 1:1-3), and then by the disciples / apostles. The writings to record the words of the Holy Spirit only began about 49-51 AD with Paul’s letters to the Galatians and Corinthians. And, as the Holy Spirit moved the men to speak, He also moved those whom He chose to write the books of the New Testament. (See the article at Apologetics Press here: https://apologeticspress.org/why-so-long-for-the-new-testament-to-be-written/)

        As the gifts of the Holy Spirit would fade away (1 Cor. 13:8), as the disciples and apostles died, then the Holy Spirit provided the written record of His words to replace the living earthen vessels / messengers.

        Further, there were writings by unbelievers, impostors who made false claims to have written other “gospels” or accounts of Jesus which have all proved to contradict the word of God and have been rejected. See https://www.gotquestions.org/lost-books-Bible.html and https://apologeticspress.org/are-there-lost-books-of-the-bible-66/ and https://apologeticspress.org/the-canon-and-extra-canonical-writings-968/

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      3. crossbow1219

        Thank you so much for your reply and quick response I truly appreciate it. Thank you also for not assuming it as an attack on our faith I know it can look like that to some. I was just doing research on the question and really wanted your thoughts on it. Your answer makes a lot of sense so thank you again and God bless.

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      4. Your welcome. I try not to read any emotion into the questions, as all questions are legitimate to someone. I didn’t take it as an attack on our faith, so all is good. Blessings upon you, and may you be well.

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      5. crossbow1219

        I was wondering what your understanding of Psalms 82:1-8 is? I’ve been studying it today and obviously looks like a couple different opinions on it lol.

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      6. Yes, a great many people want to make it mystical and say it is about a heavenly council with the angels, or that it means there is body of lesser “gods” which God convenes. But, is about the judges and priests of Israel. Vs. 1 in the YLT is phrased as “God hath stood in the company of God, In the midst God doth judge.” The CJB has it as “Elohim [God] stands in the divine assembly;
        there with the elohim [judges], he judges:” The company of God was the Mosaic assembly, the tribes of Israel who God set to be an example to all of the people of the nations (Ex. 19:5-6) Vs. 2-5 clearly address human failures to judge righteous judgment, and God is the highest judge of all. Vs. in the CJB, ““My decree is: ‘You are elohim [gods, judges], sons of the Most High all of you.” Because the Levitical priests and the appointed judges were representing God’s word and Law to the people. He set them as authorities over the people, and delegated that task to them. Vs. 7 should make it very clear to be about men. “7 But as man ye die, and as one of the heads ye fall,” (YLT) Vs. 8 is speaking of the “earth” of Israel, the promised land, not the entire literal earth. Vs. 8 – ” Rise, O God, judge the earth, For Thou hast inheritance among all the nations!” (YLT) – refers again to God’s people, His inheritance in all the nations. He brought them into the promised land of Canaan, displaced the evil nations from before them, and gave them the “earth” of their inheritance. God was calling the judges on the carpet for failing to do their jobs correctly, and reminding them that they face Him in their final judgment at their death (Vs. 7).

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      7. crossbow1219

        Ok that’s what I thought but I was struggling a little bit with them be addressed as gods and judges. Thank you for your help it does make more sense that way.

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      8. crossbow1219

        Hello Gina I was looking at 2 Peter 2:4 and was wondering if this verse is talking about godly men who sinned and we’re cast down until judgement?

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      9. Yes, the topic of 2 Pet 2 is false prophets, false teachers. Vs. 3-8 are a list of some of the instances of unbelieving men whom God punished. Vs. 11 makes the distinction between earthly “messengers” (vs. 4) and heavenly messenger who are of greater strength and power. See my post :Testing the Spirits – Part IV (b) – Slandering Angels.

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      10. crossbow1219

        Good morning Gina hope your doing well. I was wondering what is Jesus Christ’s Hebrew name according to scripture? I’ve read it’s Yeshua or Yashua, is there scripture that says what it is? Thank you for your input.

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      11. Good morning, crossbow. It is Yeshua, and the clues are in the Greek and Latin spelling of His name, Iesous / Iesus. Strong’s Gr. 2424. The Hebrew letters cannot cross into Greek or Latin, so the spelling was phonetic. The “I” before the “e” in the Greek made the “y” sound. The letter after the “I’ determined the vowel sound with the “y”. So, “Ie” made the “yeh” sound. If it had been spelled as “Ia” it would have been the “yah” sound. The middle “s” in the Greek has the hash mark over it to signify the “sh” sound, and the “ou” is the “ooo” sound. The Greek masculine case never ends with a vowel, but with an “s”. So they dropped the “ah” sound at the end in favor of the masculine case “s”.

        When later translated into the Latin, the “Ie” was kept but in Latin the “e’ was a long “a” sound, so was pronounced as the “yay” sound. The “oo” sound just became the letter “u”, and the Latin kept the ending “s” sound and so His name was pronounced “Yaasoos”. When later translated into the English, the translators invented the “j” in place of the “i” as the letter “i” in the English was a distinct long “eee” sound. So they added the hook at the bottom to make it as the “y” sound. And, today it is still pronounced as “Yaasoos” in the German. Every “J” in the English translations of the Bible were originally pronounced as a “Y” sound. So, Joshua was pronounced as Yehoshua, Jacob was Yacob, Judah was Yehuda, etc.

        But many people argue differently for Yahshua, or other variations. I believe the original Greek spelling is definitive and is most compelling for Yeshua. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3AYeshua%2FJesus

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      12. cinnamonaiblins777

        Thanks for your reply regarding the mortal wound of the beast. You may be familiar with Kurt Simmons’ writings. He’s a full-preterist from what I gather. I don’t want to misrepresent his belief on this, after reading some of his work, it seems like he interprets the healing of the beast’s wound to occur when Nero begins to persecute the church. I read that in his book, “Revelation Explained.”

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      13. Yes, he does. Kurt and I do not agree on all things. I don’t see a mortal wound applying to the Jewish heads / rulers because the wound was to the Roman ruler / head. The persecution issuing from the Sanhedrin with Stephen’s death did not mortally wound the Roman rulers. Kurt was looking at the heads as being population centers where persecution occurred, and at the same time as heads / rulers of the pagan gentile nation that rose from the sea – Rome. I believe this was some initial confusion when he wrote the book, which my father (Bill Fangio) helped publish, and which I helped proof 12 years ago, but I am not sure he would say the same today. We all grow as we study. At this time, I stand by my earlier reply.

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  5. cinnamonaiblins777

    Count me as one who has enjoyed this site thoroughly. I’m still learning and struggling with certain verses in Revelation, but the time statements alone, are enough for me to conclude that all things were fulfilled by 70 A.D.

    To your discussion above, regarding what heaven will be like, I often wonder how my earthly pleasures and hobbies will be different in heaven. For example, I enjoy biking outdoors. I try to bike at least 1,000 miles every year when the weather is nice. For me, part of the pleasure of biking is the tired feeling my muscles and lungs get as I am biking. Let’s face it, if my muscles didn’t get tired from the exercise, then I wouldn’t know when to quit my bike ride for the day. My legs muscles eventually start to get weary and tell me that it’s time to go home and rest. There is a certain satisfaction in that rest after a bike ride. So I wonder, in heaven, will we experience that same type of need for rest after an endeavor like a bike ride? Will we sleep? We only sleep on Earth because our bodies need it. But there is a satisfaction from laying down at night after a day’s work and feeling tired. I just wonder if that need for rest exists in heaven.

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    1. Smile. Well, you know I haven’t been there yet, so I can’t say for sure. But, I dream of swimming in clear blue waters without fear of sharks or jelly fish, and the dream doesn’t include getting tired and drowning. What we can say is that there will be a different set of physics. Will our bodies get tired with physical exertion in a spiritual world? Hmmm. Jesus’ appearance in the upper room with disciples after His resurrection indicates a new body with new rules not bound by matter in this physical world. Teleportation?

      Thinking of the parable of the wedding feast in Matt. 22:1-14 where the saved are reclining suggests resting from our labors / work, but that is not speaking of literally resting of the body. Will we feast because we need energy, or just for fellowship and pleasure. Will there be more than the corn of heaven to eat (Psa. 78:24)? Haven’t really any idea, except that it indicates pleasurable things.

      We are born into this physical world having to learn as a new born baby how to breath oxygen. When our carnal body wears out, and expires, it is another birth process where we have to learn how not to breathe oxygen. It is a transformation process into a new body. Jesus said that in the “rising again” that we will be “as the messengers in heaven” when speaking of marriage, meaning there will be no sexual congress in heaven as marriage was made for the getting of children here on earth. But it may be that there is also a comparison to those messengers who are of greater strength and power (2 Pet. 2:11). Is that spiritual strength and power, or is it physical? We are just going to have to wait to find out when we get there. And, I expect the joys of heaven will be much more pleasurable than the physical exercise of the carnal body.

      The heavenly messengers are working under God’s direction (Dan. 10) and are ministering spirits of service (Heb. 1:14) to those of us that inherit salvation. They appear to us in the form of men (Gen. 19:1-3) who wash their feet and eat with us. But, that earthly appearance is probably not their true form as the description given in Dan chap. 10 is much more beautiful. Paul has stated in 1 Cor. 15:36ff that our heavenly body will be more beautiful and more powerful than our earthly body. You might not need that bike to fly up and down the hills and mountains and the exhilaration will probably not be limited by muscular exertion.

      I am glad you find the content here enjoyable.

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  6. aaeganl

    I want to thank you again for this site. I find myself now better ‘hearing’ an OT verse that provides context and clarity to other verses while I am reading them, and it has become so fulfilling and has helped me understand things so much more clearly.
    I have three questions:
    (1) In your opinion, what is the functional significance of having this understanding of the Word correct? I have people tell me all the time, “look, if we both love the Lord and are working to be obedient to Him, and we believe the essentials, what does it matter what we believe about the ‘end times’”. I am a purist, so of course I believe that we need to value and honor God’s word and work hard to understand what it actually says, and not what some man says that it says, but many people think that means I am trying to be ‘holier than thou’ by saying that.
    (2) I have read most of your posts, but I just can’t remember if you have dealt with this question, and get people asking me this a lot as well – since you believe that Jesus came again in 70 AD and accomplished what is discussed in Revelation, do you believe that Jesus eventually returns again to earth to ‘wrap up’ God’s eternal purpose? To me that doesn’t seem to make sense, because it seems to me that God has wrapped up His purpose in establishing His spiritual kingdom. And if He did, wouldn’t that violate the scripture in Hebrews 9:27 that says that it is appointed unto every man once to die?
    (3) What are your thoughts on what heaven is like from the standpoint of faith? The bible teaches us to live by faith, and that is a major emphasis of our time here on earth, so I would assume that God would expect us to live by faith in heaven as well. Living by faith means that we trust and obey Him even when what we see and feel tells us that we shouldn’t, yet how can that be in heaven if there are no trials in heaven? I am just curious. I am not struggling with this, it is just a fun, curious thing to think about. Honestly, I don’t believe that heaven is going to be much like we have been told that it is.

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    1. Thank you for the positive feed back. It is so very rewarding to know that I may be reaching a few around the world, when I cannot make the indoctrinated ones in my congregation understand. They are comfortable with what they think they know, and will not investigate the scriptures thoroughly. So, I value every one who will be humble enough to seek out God’s word in truth and Spirit.

      (1) IMO, and I think there is a very strong case for it, at its root the belief in a future return of Christ to “finish” His work is blasphemy as it presents Him to the world as a liar, and someone who failed to do what He said He would do. That is the position Peter took for a just a moment when he said to Jesus, “Not so, Lord.” He became in that moment an adversary to Christ who denied His word. Peter basically called Jesus a liar. And, what was Jesus’ response? I believe that those who deny Him now, and will not see that He finished the salvation work the Father charged Him with will have to answer that same charge when they stand before God. How will they answer it? I truly believe they are in danger, and that it is a salvation issue. I addressed this in the Part VI of It’s Not The End of The World series.

      (2) No. Christ finished it all. He established His kingdom and the method of salvation through baptism (immersion) into His name. Such a simple thing, and yet the majority of the Christian world is kicking against it. We now have to answer that call, and it is up to us to be obedient to His terms. The process is in place, and He takes care of all those who have complied, and remain faithful unto death. We have the promises always before us that if we are faithful to repent of our sins and confess them, then He is faithful to forgive us, and will remember them no more. We are clothed in His righteousness, and will stand robed in pure white before Him at our resurrection from this earthly realm. What more could we ask for? I believe that He will keep this process going as long as there are souls that will answer His call. Otherwise, He would be putting a limit upon His grace, and Christ’s sacrifice. I can’t see that happening.

      (3) Just for fun… I can imagine a lot, but, 1 Cor. 2:9, “…“What no eye has seen, nor ear heard, nor the heart of man conceived, what God has prepared for those who love him,” As there will not be any liars, nor murderers, nor thieves, nor any unbelievers there, can you imagine a place where every one you meet will be a friend, and someone you can trust completely? Where we will not have to doubt another’s word, nor hold a reserve about meeting new people? Can you imagine a place where everything is more real, more beautiful, where colors are more intense and more vivid than here? Can you imagine the brilliance of the scene in the throne room in Rev. 4:3? Or the pavement like sapphire stone under God’s feet (Ex. 24:10)? We will have a true Eden, God’s garden. This earth realm is a copy of the true things in heaven (Ex. 25:9, 40; Heb. 8:5) So, I can imagine a lot, beautiful blue seas, wonderful green trees, and flowering plants, etc.; but right now that is only speculation. I certainly long for that beauty and that peace.

      Thank you again.

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