With some expectation of stepping on toes, we approach a prophesy that is greatly contested and misunderstood, and has confused many commentators for centuries – the battle of Gog of Magog.
According to Jewish belief, the battle of the prophesy of Ezekiel 38, 39 will precipitate the Messianic redemption –
Excerpt from “The Battle of Gog and Magog” at Chabad.org –
“The defeat of Gog and Magog will precipitate the Messianic Redemption. It is difficult to dwell on this topic because it is so shrouded in mystery. We are uncertain as to the identity of Gog and Magog, whether Gog and Magog are the names of nations or individuals, whether this battle will be a physical or spiritual battle, and even whether it has already occurred or not.” (1)
But, there are time markers and geographical parameters in the scriptures that surround this prophesy of Gog of Magog. In order to approach this prophesy from a scriptural perspective it will help to explore what it is not. We need to examine current beliefs and rule out any that contradict scripture.
Jewish beliefs also center around the Gematria of “Gog u’Magog” – the selected Hebrew letters that support their beliefs – as equal to the number 70 and standing for the 70 Biblical nations of the world. (2)
The literal Hebrew of Ezek. 38:2 is ” גּוֹג אֶרֶץ מָגוֹג” transliterated as “gowg eres hammagowg”, so the Hebrew letters in the practice of Gematria would equal 3+6+3+70+…. and already at the 4th Hebrew letter the sum is over 70. This use of selective reasoning – reaching for anything to support a favored belief – is not keeping with the scriptures.
The Jewish beliefs also center around an idea of an earthly Messianic kingdom, with an earthly temple rebuilt in Jerusalem, and an earthly king ruling from Jerusalem lifting up the Jews as the chosen of God over all other nations of the world. (Ibid). They are hoping and looking for earthly political nirvana.
As this much hoped for idea contradicts the spiritual nature of the “heavenly” kingdom as described in Luke 17:20-21, then it is a false belief system.
“ 20 And having been questioned by the Pharisees, when the reign of God doth come, he answered them, and said, `The reign of God doth not come with observation;
21 nor shall they say, Lo, here; or lo, there; for lo, the reign of God is within you.’ (YLT)
Then as now, the Jews were wanting Christ to set up an earthly kingdom to release them from Roman rule. But, political earthly rule was not God’s objective. He sent His Son to be the propitiation for the sins of the entire world (Heb. 2:17; 1 John 2:2; 4:10).
In order to support their beliefs some Jews have argued that the battle of Gog of Magog will be in three parts, three world wars; two of which have already happened. They are only waiting for the third world war – WWIII – after which they believe the” true” Messiah will appear and reign in Jerusalem. (3) (4)
Other twists on this earthly battle center around Russia as the leader of this last world war to end all time, because the name “Rosh” sounds close to or similar to the nation name of Russia. (5) (6) Using a sound of a place name is not a “sound” hermeneutical principal.
Our current nation state foreign policy is affected by these religious beliefs. This belief system is pushing the world’s political agendas of the created “state” of Israel, and their major ally, the United States, which has been co-opted to be the military and monetary arm of the state of Israel since at least 1948. It is why so many attempts to orchestrate WWIII have been in process in the Middle East and beyond for the last several decades. They believe they are helping God achieve His plans.
Sarah attempted to help God with His plan. Many times our interference in God’s plans have had very ugly consequences.
All of these beliefs surrounding the prophesy of Gog of Magog are all based upon the false belief that the “last days” or “latter days” of God’s prophesies were defined as the last days of all time, and the end of the physical world. People all over the world are using their ideas to define God’s words, instead of critically examining God’s own words and letting scripture define scripture.
This is a complete misunderstanding of God’s word, and of God’s plan of salvation. Unfortunately, many Christians have also been taught to believe much of this false doctrine under the guise of the dispensational pre-millennial teachings of the Scofield Reference Bible, which was printed by the Oxford University Press; the printing office of the NWO funded by Rhodes who was backed financially by the Rothschilds. (See Part VI of It’s Not The End of The World at the right margin.)
The insights of some of the Jewish beliefs of this prophesy of Gog of Magog begin with the scriptures, but then take off into flights of fancy, embellished with the rabbinical imaginations and fictions expressed in the Talmud, Mishna, Midrash, Kabbalah, and many other Jewish writings. But, these writings are of men who are not inspired of God, and they are not scripture.
Mixed among all of these are a few elements of truth, as the best lies start with a known truth before twisting it and perverting it into a fairy tale. The battle of Gog of Magog was a spiritual battle played out upon the earth of Jerusalem during the last days. Our mission of discovery is through the scriptures, and the parameters and limits are set by the word of God. Ezekiel forecasts the plot, and Revelation lays it out.
So, we will discover the known limits of this prophesy within the scriptures before we can discuss the whole. Identifying the known variables will define for us the entire set within which the end result must be contained. We can then determine God’s definitions and not our own.
Zechariah spoke of this battle:
“ 9 And it hath come to pass, in that day, I seek to destroy all the nations Who are coming in against Jerusalem,
10 And I have poured on the house of David, And on the inhabitant of Jerusalem, A spirit of grace and supplications, And they have looked unto Me whom they pierced, And they have mourned over it, Like a mourning over the only one, And they have been in bitterness for it, Like a bitterness over the first-born.
11 In that day, great is the mourning of Jerusalem, As the mourning of Hadadrimmon in the valley of Megiddon,” (Zech. 12:9-11, YLT)
When was Christ pierced? When did all the “tribes of the earth” mourn? In prophesy, the word “earth” stood for the land area the prophet was sent to warn, but most often was Israel; therefore, the word “tribes” were specifically the tribes of Israel.
When did Christ say the tribes of Israel would mourn? In Matt. 24:30 while speaking with His disciples about the destruction of the temple in Jerusalem which happened in AD 70.
Now let’s look at the words of the prophesy in Ezekiel.
“ 8 After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them.” (Ezek. 38:8, KJV)
“ After many days thou art appointed, In the latter end of the years thou comest in unto a land brought back from sword, [A people] gathered out of many peoples, Upon mountains of Israel, That have been for a perpetual waste, And it from the peoples hath been brought out, And dwelt safely have all of them.” (Ezek. 38:8, YLT)
The ASV, ERV, ESV, NASB, NET, RSV, and several others translate this verse with “in the latter years”. The YLT has it best as “in the latter end of the years” which agrees with Daniel 12:13 expressed as “at the end of the days”.
“The years” and “the days” are a distinct period of time God has defined in the scriptures as the last days of the Mosaic covenant and the last days of the temple in Jerusalem. Defining what God meant by “the last days” is the main point of this blog, which is supported by many scriptural proofs. All of these are presented in Parts I – X of It’s Not The End of The World at the bottom right margin. Let’s review a few.
Gen 49:1, “And Jacob calleth unto his sons and saith, `Be gathered together, and I declare to you that which doth happen with you in the latter end of the days.” (YLT)
Jacob was giving the blessings to his sons and telling each of them how their progeny would end in THEIR last days. He goes through each one of them, but the key is at Gen. 49:10 for Judah’s last days.
“ The sceptre turneth not aside from Judah, And a lawgiver from between his feet, Till his Seed come; And his [is] the obedience of peoples.” (YLT)
When did the sceptre of the lawgiver pass from Judah to the Messiah, Yeshua? When Christ was crucified, and when He was resurrected from the grave on the third day… in 30 – 31 AD. So, the last days of Judah, and the latter end of the days of Gen. 49:1 were in the first century AD when both John and Jesus came teaching that the kingdom of heaven was at hand.
In Number 23 -24, Balaam prophesies the word of God to Balak, and tells Balak,
“ 14 and, now, lo, I am going to my people; come, I counsel thee [concerning] that which this people doth to thy people, in the latter end of the days.‘…. 17 I see it, but not now; I behold it, but not near; A star hath proceeded from Jacob, And a sceptre hath risen from Israel, And hath smitten corners of Moab, And hath destroyed all sons of Sheth.” (Num. 24:14, 17, YLT)
When did the star from Jacob, and the sceptre, or ruler rise from Israel? When Christ was manifested on earth in the first century AD. So, when then were the latter end of the days? They were in the first century AD just as Jacob had prophesied in the blessing to Judah.
The latter end of the days were never defined as the end of all time, nor the end of the physical, natural world. They were always the last days of the tribes of Israel, the last days of the rule of the law from Judah, and the last days of the Mosaic animal sacrificial temple in Jerusalem. The latter end of the days was the final destruction of Jerusalem in AD 70.
Christ confirmed the time. His second coming was set for the end of the days, the latter days of the Mosaic covenant when His everlasting heavenly kingdom would take over from the earthly kingdom in Judea.
Matt. 16:28, “Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.” (KJV)
Speaking to His disciples, Matt. 10:23, “… for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come.” (KJV)
Speaking to His disciples of the time of the destruction of the temple, Matt. 24:34, “ Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.” (KJV)
Speaking to the scribes and Pharisees, Luke 16:16, “The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.” (KJV)
The prophecies were until John, meaning that they foretold the time period to John’s coming to preach the kingdom of heaven and to make way the path for the Messiah, the promised one. When did John preach the kingdom of heaven was at hand? The first century AD, when Christ was crucified for our sins.
Peter confirmed the time.
“ 19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot: 20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you, 21 Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.” (KJV)
When was Christ manifested on earth, and when was He raised from the dead? During the first century AD.
The author of Hebrews confirmed it.
” God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, 2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; 3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:” (KJV)
When did Christ speak directly to the people? During his earthly ministry in Jerusalem both before and after His resurrection in the first century AD.
The scriptures clearly define the last days as the last days of the rule from Judea, and the change over from the Mosaic covenantal law to the rule of Christ in His everlasting spiritual kingdom under the covenant of the gospel of Christ. All of which took place during the first century AD, during the life times of those who heard Him speak.
Therefore, when Ezekiel prophesied of the battle of Gog of Magog in chap. 38, he set the time for the end of the latter years which occurred in the first century AD during the last days of that animal sacrificial temple in Jerusalem. The end of the latter years began with the preaching of John the Immerser and ended with the destruction of that Mosaic covenantal temple in Jerusalem in AD. 70.
Therefore, the battle of Gog of Magog is time limited during the first century AD between AD 26 and AD 70.
We will look at the next parameter of the geographical markers in Ezekiel 38 in the next post.
1) The Battle of Gog and Magog at Chabad.org
2) Gematria of Gog of Magog at Torah.org
3) The War That Will End All Wars at Chabad.org
4) Gog and Magog at Chabad.org
5) Ezekiel 38 at Enduringworld
6) “Lech Lecha: Chevlei Mashiach” by Ben Burton at LadderofJacob
11 thoughts on “Ezekiel in Revelation – Part V: The Time of Gog of Magog”
Gina, you mentioned John and Jesus coming to preach that the kingdom of heaven (or God) was at hand. Luke 3:1-2 records the time of this event this way… Now in the fifteenth year of the reign of Tiberius Caesar, when Pontius Pilate was governor of Judea, and Herod was tetrarch of Galilee, and his brother Philip was tetrarch of the region of Ituraea and Trachonitis, and Lysanias was tetrarch of Abilene, in the high priesthood of Annas and Caiaphas, the word of God came to John, the son of Zacharias, in the wilderness. (NASB)
The fifteenth year of Tiberius Cesar was 27 AD which is crystal clear. There are six other prominent people mentioned in the passage identified by doctor Luke to really nail down the time. I can trace the timelines for five of these prominent people, but I can’t find anything at all for Lysanias of Abilene. In your bio, you mentioned that you are a voracious reader. Based on your posts, I would believe that to be true. In your reading travels, have you come across any information at all for Lysanias of Abilene? Thanks in advance.
Grace and peace to you.
Eugene, I had not previously researched Lysanias before your question, but have found info on him at McClintock and Strong here: https://www.biblicalcyclopedia.com/L/lysanias.html, also at Biblehub commentary here: https://biblehub.com/commentaries/luke/3-1.htm. Lysanias appears to have been a family name used through several generations.
I so appreciate your site because it has caused me to read the Word with new understanding, and things that used to be confusing are now made clear. Thank you for your diligence to study like you do to help enlighten the Body of Christ.
Speaking of the Body of Christ, what are your thoughts on what the Word provides for the daily functioning of the church today? I am not a big ‘church system’ fan, but I have been struggling to find people who want to invest the time and energy to gather together as believers and attempt to replicate what it seems like the early church was. Most people have grown too accustomed to the simple, cookie cutter method of the Sunday morning church service, where they aren’t required to think or to study or to come out of their comfort zone to even speak.
What do you see as the proper functioning that we should be striving towards? I know that there is power when believers come together, but we are struggling to see how that actually functions without feeling like we are constantly encouraging people to come, encouraging them to read their Word, encouraging them to speak, etc. Are we missing the point and pursuing the wrong path? Should our focus be elsewhere and more simplified? I really just want to live in the reality of being in love with the Lord, and being grateful for His incredible mercy. I certainly don’t want to create a mini-church – I just want to be with people that can stir me and I can stir them to love Him more. I would appreciate any insight that you could provide.
THE Church is the body of Christ – Christ’s church and each of the members of that body are those are baptized into Christ, immersed in water confessing Christ is the Son of God. It is a corporate body consisting of every saint in every nation on earth. It does not correspond to a building, nor a group of people with a denominational name, nor a 501(c)3 organization, nor an institution with set creeds. Corporately, the body of Christ is the bride of Christ. Separately, each member of that body has a duty to Christ to be ready to give an answer to those around us for the hope that is within us (1 Pet. 3:15). We need to know His word so thoroughly, so completely that we can speak to others about the gospel of Christ at any moment. Paul and Peter and John worked tirelessly to spread the gospel. The assemblies today should be following their examples as Paul instructed Timothy to teach others also (2 Tim 2:1ff). Being soldiers for Christ is a job involving teaching and working to bring the knowledge of God’s grace and love and mercy through Jesus’ sacrifice.
People don’t come to church with you unless you have a personal relationship with them, and have spoken to them about God’s word. They come because they know you, and you are their introduction to Christ. THen they will learn to know Jesus and our Father in heaven. It takes Bible study to do that. And, only those who are willing will answer you. It doesn’t mean you drag them the doors. Many ppl don’t want to know. There is nothing you can about that.
It is tough today to find that “perfect” assembly as so many of the church groups have deviated from God’s word and presented their own belief systems in their stated creeds. It would be nice if we could attend that perfect congregation to fellowship with like minded saints in our worship of God, but it only becomes perfected, or approaches perfection in the knowledge of His word if we are willing to teach others also.
Those first assemblies in the 1st century AD had their problems which Paul makes very clear, and which Jesus pointed out in Rev. 2 & 3 in the 7 letters to the 7 churches in Asia. It was their job to straighten out those problems and each member was a part of the solution. Through His love and mercy, through kindness and energy and work we each strive to be better individually and bodily for the assemblies.
Personally speaking, I have found the better models that are trying to return to the apostolic models set forth in scripture to be the churches of Christ. They are orderly, do not use musical instruments, sing from the heart, and are attempting the best they know how to study God’s word every time they meet. That does not make them perfect, as the dispensational premilennial teachings have infiltrated there as well. It is very difficult to attend any of the congregations and hear them continually beat the drum that we are waiting for Christ’s 2nd coming. They don’t realize they are teaching error, & possibly preventing others from accepting Christ as their savior. But, if I don’t work at it in my congregation, then who will?
We are His ambassadors and His priests on this earth. Our work for Him in teaching others is our job, and hopefully if we are able through love and mercy we will win a few stars in our crowns.
Heb 8:4-5 says: “Now if He were on earth, He would not be a priest at all, since there are those who offer the gifts according to the Law; who serve a copy and shadow of the heavenly things, just as Moses was warned by God when he was about to erect the tabernacle; for, “See,” He says, “that you make all things according to the pattern which was shown you on the mountain.””
Based on that scripture, it is my understanding that all things related to Israel, the law, the temple, the sacrifices, etc were copies of the real – they were imitations of the true. God gave us a replica of the kingdom so that we would become familiar with His ways, but when He came to replace the copy with the original, they would not let go of it and refused to part with their imitation lifestyle. They had grown accustomed to what they had and would not give it up. That is why God had to destroy the copy, the imitation before He could reveal the true, the real. Otherwise, people would be confused with which is real and genuine. This is exactly why there is so much emphasis today to lift up the copy (Israel, the promised land, the chosen people, the Law, the temple, etc) as the real, the genuine – because it distracts away from God’s true kingdom. Does this understanding align with your reading of the scripture?
Not exactly. The earthly temple was the copy of the original in heaven. The Mosaic law was given to the people He chose (Israel) to be their tutor so that they could learn about God and His love and requirements for them; and as the precursor to salvation in Christ Jesus (Gal. 3:24-25). The law was added b/c of the transgressions of the people (Gal. 3:19). The law was perfect, but the people could not meet its standard. It taught the knowledge of sin (Rom. 3:20). So the law was not needed in heaven, but here on earth until all of it was completed in Christ’s sacrifice and resurrection.
All of the sacrifices pointed to Christ’s sacrifice for us. The sacrifices were not for heavenly beings, but for earthly men and women. The people of Israel were meant to be the teachers and priests to the other nations, the example of how to worship God to the strangers & foreigners (Ex. 19:6), but they never understood and began thinking they were the only people God loved. They began twisting the laws to suit their wants and desires, and perverted the temple sacrifices as tho the animals meant nothing to the Lord. Placing their hands upon the head of the best animal of their flock, the one they loved the most was to teach them that the sin transference to that animal cost them a great deal. Instead the animals became as nothing to them, or they would give the Lord the spotted, or lame, or least of their flock.
The people of Judea / Israel refused Christ as their Messiah in the 1st century AD, as well as today b/c He didn’t give them what they wanted – not b/c they loved the law. They despised the Mosaic Law since they corrupted it, changed it, and did not keep it. They wanted Christ to be a political, earthly king just as they had asked for under Samuel (1 Sam. 8) to fight their battles for them. Those of the 1st century AD wanted a king to rid them of the Roman rulers and set up another earthly kingdom as they had enjoyed under Solomon. They didn’t understand the spiritual nature of the spiritual kingdom that was being birthed out of the physical. So it is not that they wanted a replica of the law or the spiritual temple; they wanted earthly power to be restored to them (Acts. 1:9). That is what those ppl who claim to be Jews – but who are not – think they are doing in that “state” of Israel today.
God destroyed the temple in Jerusalem so that the spiritual kingdom and the spiritual temple could be established under the gospel of Christ. That was always going to be the method and the plan. God did not want the animal sacrifices (Heb. 10: 6-8). He established them for the purpose of bringing in the fullness of Jesus Christ, the last blood sacrifice that He would ever again accept for forgiveness of sins. That is why Dan. 9:24 said an “end of sins” – meaning the end of the sin sacrifices of the animal types.
So, now those who have been immersed into Christ’s death, burial, & resurrection (standing up) have put on Christ, & are counted for the seed of Abraham (Gal. 3:26-29). We are now the copy of the true temple – Jesus Christ – and the spiritual temple in heaven. Our physical bodies are a temporary bodily temple that is the pattern of the heavenly temple. And our sacrifices are the fruit of our lips and our good works for Him (Heb. 13:15-16). We are the spiritual Israel now.
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Please consider the idea that the Gog Magog invasion will take place at the end of the Millenium when Satan is released to deceive the nations. Revelation describes it briefly but Ezekiel describes the same account in detail.
You are repeating the dogma with which you have been indoctrinated. This blog is dedicated to waking people from that indoctrination of “end times” and “end of the world” teaching. Please read the previous posts which detail much of the scriptures that prove the “end” was never speaking of the end of time, but of the end of the Mosaic covenant and the end of the animal sacrificial temple in Jerusalem. Therefore, the end were the last days of the Mosaic covenant which occurred in the first century AD, and in which the battle of Gog of Magog took place. Start at the first post, bottom right margin for Part I of It’s Not The End of The World. Blessings.
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